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November 29, 2014, 03:54:38 pm
I have killed my Foscam Clone, with flashing a modded firmware. I managed to get Telnet Running. But then i tried to insert a busy box. Ive done Something wrong, and killed my Camera. I tried to use a Serial, i think i also got something shortened... So my Board is gone.

So i Opend the Camera Module. Since the connector was Labed V5,D+ D-,Grnd, i put an USB connector On
Entered it on my Windows8. An Viola the Camera was detected on Windows USB 2.0 PC Camera.
Now i can get a Clear Image on my PC.

Im not shure if someone have tried it but since its a default driver it could help building an Open Firmware. If its already known, Please ignore my post. I havn't found something about it in the Forum




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November 29, 2014, 05:14:29 pm
I have killed my Foscam Clone, with flashing a modded firmware. I managed to get Telnet Running. But then i tried to insert a busy box. Ive done Something wrong, and killed my Camera. I tried to use a Serial, i think i also got something shortened... So my Board is gone.

So i Opend the Camera Module. Since the connector was Labed V5,D+ D-,Grnd, i put an USB connector On
Entered it on my Windows8. An Viola the Camera was detected on Windows USB 2.0 PC Camera.
Now i can get a Clear Image on my PC.

Im not shure if someone have tried it but since its a default driver it could help building an Open Firmware. If its already known, Please ignore my post. I havn't found something about it in the Forum

This is well known. If you mean? Do thousands of people know about it.

Most of the MJPEG based Foscam IP Camera models or Clone MJPEG based IP Cameras. Have a USB interface which can be used to flash new DSP ("Digital Signal Processor") firmware when/if needed. It's not possible to flash the DSP firmware using a standard 3.3V DC TTL Serial connector to these MJPEG based IP Cameras. Because it requires a USB interface ("Cable") and an application program to flash the DSP firmware.

Example:

http://foscam.us/forum/mjpeg-cameras-hanging-rebooting-based-on-image-data-t5769.html?hilit=DSP#p27598

That same USB interface ("Cable") created by using the instructions I created posted above. Can also be used to access the MJPEG based IP Cameras as a USB based Webcam as well. The IP Camera when acting as a USB Webcam does not require the AC/DC adapter to be plugged into the IP Camera and gets any power it needs when serving as a Webcam via the USB interface.

Note: I never did try to use these IP Cameras as a Webcam on Linux based systems or a Mac. They do however work on any Windows systems I tried at the time. From Vista to Win7. The IP Cameras do have Windows based divers that do download/install automatically, when being accessed via their USB interface. Which allows these IP Cameras to be accessed like any other USB based Webcam. Please don't try to flash your DSP firmware using the instructions above. Because that DSP firmware is dependent on what camera sensor a IP Camera has and if it had the issues that the DSP firmware was created to fix.

The above link contains USB cable wiring schematics, images of the camera boards for Indoor and Outdoor cameras, DSP . bin firmware, Windows based application program used to flash the DSP .bin firmware and instructions I put together, for creating a USB cable for flashing the DSP firmware. Which can also be used instead, to simply make a MJPEG based IP Camera into a Webcam, by using only those same USB cable fabrication instructions.

It should be noted that most working MJPEG based IP Cameras, could be used for dual purpose. If you used the custom USB cable as needed when using it for a Webcam and re-connected the normal cable connectors on the cameras board when the IP Camera was in IP Camera mode.

LOL. Kind of a "Always use as Webcam unless away on vacation. Then convert to IP Camera for remote viewing, motion alarm situations". The Outdoor camera models are much easier to play and be used for this dual purpose mode game vs. the Indoor camera models. Which require many more things be taken apart to access the USB connection on the IP Cameras board.

Don
« Last Edit: November 29, 2014, 06:21:23 pm by TheUberOverLord »

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November 29, 2014, 06:42:17 pm
My Camara haven't had an USB Port, i mean just the Camera (Module) is USB:
https://cloud.vogler.name/public.php?service=files&t=cfc1523200b8dbd4b80ca331da0389d7


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November 29, 2014, 06:49:25 pm
My Camara haven't had an USB Port, i mean just the Camera (Module) is USB:
https://cloud.vogler.name/public.php?service=files&t=cfc1523200b8dbd4b80ca331da0389d7

Well, what does that camera sensor board plug into? Is that board using a USB interface to plug into the cameras main board?

It appears your IP Camera is not a true clone of a Foscam like IP Camera. I originally went by your statement that it was. See attached photos.

Don
« Last Edit: November 29, 2014, 06:59:06 pm by TheUberOverLord »

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November 29, 2014, 07:31:33 pm
The Board from the Other Side:
https://cloud.vogler.name/public.php?service=files&t=07caf46c10472b33b9f2c712aa4295af
The USB is Connect Up Right Pin 1 = Ground , PIN 3 = D+ , PIN 4 = D- , PIN 5= 5V

The Camera is:
Wansview Black NCB-541W

I Used the
http://www.foscam.com/down3.aspx
FI8910W.FI8918W.FI8916W.FI8910E Firmware, for my Flashing Experiment,and for my Modding. Worked without Problem. So i thought it should be a clone, when the Firmware from Foscam worked without modifying

The Bord is:
https://cloud.vogler.name/public.php?service=files&t=b185e3aa43c26d33e482a7945a12b4f1
The Connector was on of the White Connectors, im not sure, which one (It was one of the 5 Pin Connectors)




« Last Edit: November 29, 2014, 08:22:08 pm by L0RE »

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November 30, 2014, 03:05:07 am
The Board from the Other Side:
https://cloud.vogler.name/public.php?service=files&t=07caf46c10472b33b9f2c712aa4295af
The USB is Connect Up Right Pin 1 = Ground , PIN 3 = D+ , PIN 4 = D- , PIN 5= 5V

The Camera is:
Wansview Black NCB-541W

I Used the
http://www.foscam.com/down3.aspx
FI8910W.FI8918W.FI8916W.FI8910E Firmware, for my Flashing Experiment,and for my Modding. Worked without Problem. So i thought it should be a clone, when the Firmware from Foscam worked without modifying

The Bord is:
https://cloud.vogler.name/public.php?service=files&t=b185e3aa43c26d33e482a7945a12b4f1
The Connector was on of the White Connectors, im not sure, which one (It was one of the 5 Pin Connectors)

Yes. But as you can see. Your cameras board does in fact have a USB interface. A special cable is required to be created to use it. Because the connector is not a USB connector. Which is why I gave the link before in my prior post about that.

Don