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Author Topic: Cheap China IP Cam....help....  (Read 26255 times)

November 15, 2012, 03:21:53 pm
I bought a cheap IP cam off of ebay to use as a baby (well, toddler) monitor. I was hoping to find some sort of way to monitor my son and talk to him from the basement if he is refusing to go to sleep.

It is pretty much this one:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Newest-Black-ALL-IN-ONE-Wifi-Network-Audio-IR-LED-Nightvision-IP-Camera-/271065690054?pt=US_Security_Cameras&hash=item3f1cc62fc6#ht_5592wt_1163
or
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Wireless-Security-IP-Wifi-Indoor-Camera-two-way-Audio-Night-Vision-WEBCAM-/300789819972?pt=US_Security_Cameras&hash=item4608786a44&_uhb=1

Trying to track down a manufacurer is turning out to be very hard. Is it these guys?:
http://www.china-ip-camera.com/product/45/M-Jpeg-IP-Camera-EXP-441W

A few problems:

-I can only get the full functionality (Audio monitoring, alarms etc.) via the IE OCX web interface....Chrome, firefox etc. all get a basic interface (camera movement only).

-I Cannot get two-way audio working!? Even with a external speaker plugged into the audio port!? what am I missing?

-I cannot find any iOS apps to monitor this camera properly (since I don't know the manufacturer info to give to the app....)

-I have found a good android app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rcreations.ipcamviewerBasic&hl=en), I've told it I have an EZCam/EZCam Pan/Tilt v2 and it seems to work (I can pan and monitor audio).....but the two way audio button is greyed out....

I'd like an app that can/will allow me to monitor the cameras audio without needing the video of my tablet or iPhone to be on (awake, not sleeping. Both can play music with the screen off!?)....or at least alarm me when a noise is heard (all I see is motion alarms, I want audio alarms!?).....

Open to any ideas, I'd love to update the firmware and/or WebUI but I'm not sure I want to be soldering connections to backup my current firmware......I know I know....I bought the cheap stuff so I'm not expecting miracles!  LOL

Thanks for the help!!!


« Last Edit: November 15, 2012, 03:24:21 pm by tskaling »

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November 15, 2012, 04:21:21 pm
best way to trace "OEM" is via firmware version, webui version and inbuilt ddns domain.

If the seller bought only rights for an older version of FW it is possibly the cause of the missing functions and could be eliminated by a fw update.

November 15, 2012, 04:58:48 pm
By "firmware version" you don't mean just the 0.0.2 version number right? you mean I need to perform the steps outlined in:

http://www.openipcam.com/forum/index.php/topic,39.0.html

right?

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November 16, 2012, 02:29:21 am
no, usually there is a admins section in the webui where you can find a update function.
On this page there should be mentioned the versions of system an webui ...

November 16, 2012, 01:38:39 pm
On the "Update Software" page:
Software Version: 0.0.0.2
Web Version:      0.0.0.0.3

On the "Update Webpages" page:
Software Version: 0.0.0.2
Web Version:      0.0.0.0.3

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November 16, 2012, 06:58:51 pm
ok, this doesn't really help a lot ... and most likely isn't the version at all. I have seen cams where a fake version# was hardcoded in the webui and only the call of the .cgi function or bootlog showwed the real version. Try http://your-cams-ip:port/get_params.cgi  and look for sys_ver and app_ver

A glue for what direction of OEM to search may also be given by a screenshot of the mainscreen (where the live video is shown).
« Last Edit: November 16, 2012, 07:00:32 pm by schufti »

November 16, 2012, 07:33:14 pm
First, I appreciate the help! THANKS! ;D

Second, I tried the command you gave me (from WAN, I'll try using the LAN when I get home)....

[error]:unknown cgi cmd:
[/get_params.cgi]

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November 17, 2012, 05:49:08 am
you have to be logged in to your cam first, then change the last part of the url (e.g. index1.htm) to get_params.cgi

November 17, 2012, 01:15:38 pm
That is exactly what I did. Log in then changed to http://192.168.0.150/get_params.cgi from  http://192.168.0.150/index.htm.  No go.

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November 17, 2012, 03:54:11 pm
then the only option left (to me) seems to be dumping the firmware and webui and analyse it, as it looks like a different type than what we have seen so far ...

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November 17, 2012, 04:13:20 pm
First, I appreciate the help! THANKS! ;D

Second, I tried the command you gave me (from WAN, I'll try using the LAN when I get home)....

[error]:unknown cgi cmd:
[/get_params.cgi]

IMHO, what you should do is view the HTML source code for as many of the web pages as possible that the camera displays/produces when modifying camera configuration values, when logged in using whatever user Id you use that allows you to configure your camera.

Because many of these cameras use frames in their HTML, you may need to click on different areas of the web page being displayed, such as on controls or buttons, to see the HTML source code, for that area of the web page being displayed. If you don't do that, you maybe missing major HTML source code, depending on where you clicked on that web page, to view the HTML source code. Look at the HTML source code for any CGI commands, post unique ones here.

This will help to isolate what kind of firmware is being used and from whom.

Additionally, if you have any tools like Fiddler, check the HTTP response headers for anything that might Include information like some cameras include. Of course you would want to be running that tool on the computer you are using to communicate with the camera interface at that time.

Example:



In the above case "Server: Netwave IP Camera" is a dead giveaway of what type of firmware is in the camera. There may or may not be text in response headers that might be helpful in your case.

That said. Any CGI commands you can find located in the HTML source code of pages produced by the camera, can be very helpful to determine who produced the camera you have.

Don
« Last Edit: November 18, 2012, 12:03:49 pm by TheUberOverLord »

November 19, 2012, 10:20:37 pm
I could only see one reference to a cgi file. videostream.cgi

I downloaded fiddler, this is what it tells me!?

Thanks again for all your help, this forum is very informative and helpful!  ;D


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November 19, 2012, 10:36:26 pm
I could only see one reference to a cgi file. videostream.cgi

I downloaded fiddler, this is what it tells me!?

Thanks again for all your help, this forum is very informative and helpful!  ;D

You are very welcome.

Using any browser besides a Chrome based browser, entering your local IP address an port for your camera here or your DDNS and port for your camera here or your ISP IP address and port for your camera here, can you see your camera?

Your entry should be like: IP:Port without any leading http://

http://www.saveontelephonebills.com/camera/YourCameraBIV25.htm

Note: You will be prompted, by your camera, to login. You will see different controls displayed depending on what User Level Id you use above. Visitor, Operator or Admin.

Don
« Last Edit: November 19, 2012, 10:46:02 pm by TheUberOverLord »

November 19, 2012, 11:43:18 pm
TheUberOverLord: (sweet name BTW!)

I'm sorry to say, when I perform your test, I don't even get prompted to log in! The page is just blank.

Testing out the url in another tab (DDNS:PORT or IP:PORT) and the camera is up and connected!?

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November 19, 2012, 11:48:03 pm
TheUberOverLord: (sweet name BTW!)

I'm sorry to say, when I perform your test, I don't even get prompted to log in! The page is just blank.

Testing out the url in another tab (DDNS:PORT or IP:PORT) and the camera is up and connected!?

Thanks. More here on how I got the nickname: http://airforce.togetherweserved.com/sbv/TheUberOverLord

Could you attach as a file, the HTML for the pages to define your eMail and FTP settings, there should be some .cgi access on/inside those HTML pages generated by the camera?

Don
« Last Edit: November 19, 2012, 11:52:44 pm by TheUberOverLord »